Problem is, every body is different and responds to different supplements, and unfortunately, the only way to find out what works is to try everything in sight until you hit on something, or a good combination of somethings. I'm not even sure whether others' recommendations are helpful, since we all seem so different. So you might say the money's wasted, or you might say it's an investment in finding what works. Sigh! Too bad that's the only way to do it, huh? Augie, from the look of your posts today, you seem very discouraged. Hope you'll hang in there, keep trying, find something that's helpful to you soon.