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how frequent are frequent small meals? Also pep caps?
      #87699 - 07/08/04 08:59 AM
raindew01

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Loc: Toronto, Ontario - Canada.

Hi all,
I know we're supposed to be having frequent small high soluble meals. So, how frequent is frequent? How many times a day do you eat? When is it a meal and a snack?

Also, how often do you take pep caps, if you take them? Before every meal? Once a day? Before a snack?

Thanks,
raindew

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      #87703 - 07/08/04 09:02 AM
RachelT

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Posts: 2350
Loc: Minnesota

I need to know the answer to that question too. I have a tendancy to wait till the last minute to eat, and then completely stuff myself!

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Re: how frequent are frequent small meals? Also pep caps? new
      #87733 - 07/08/04 10:06 AM
suzyq

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Posts: 630
Loc: Northern Ont. Canada

Hi Raindew; I eat about 6 times a day. A regular day for me is between 7:30 - 8:00 am breakfast; ex. english muffin,egg white scrambled,orange juice; snack between 10:00 - 10:30 am snack,ex. banana and yogurt; lunch between 12:00 - 1:00 pm tuna sandwich(lettuce/tomato/smidge of mayo),sometimes with a bowl of vegtable soup(depending how hungry I am)(most days it is a peanut butter and jam sandwich my staple food); snack about 3:00 pm, could be crackers,applesauce,lately its been rice chips,or try incorporate more fruit. Dinner is usually chicken or fish,with white rice or baked potatoe,and a steamed veggie and try and add a tossed salad at the end. ( this all depends on how I'm feeling that day) ( this is for today,cause I'm feeling ok! ) Then a snack in the evening which is usually dry cereal. Through out the whole day I drink water, chammomile tea and juices. I hope this helps.
I don't take pep caps so I can't help you there. Take care sue


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      #87757 - 07/08/04 10:36 AM
Bevvy

Reged: 11/04/03
Posts: 5918
Loc: Northwest Washington State

According to my food journal, I tend to eat a little something every 2 hours, but sometimes I go as long as 4.

However, I never go as long as 12. I had to fast night before last -- so that I could have lab work done yesterday morning. I stopped eating at 8:00 that night, and by 8:00 yesterday morning, I was pretty hungry, but I couldn't eat; instead I headed out to the lab. Frankly, I wasn't feeling well, my tummy was rumbling something terrible. I had the lab work done and left, heading down the highway to the new property to check out the contractors' progress, all the while my tummy screaming up at me, "Hey, what's the delay? Send it DOWN!" The rumbling got worse, so I reached into my purse for my private stash, and gobbled down a Luna Bar.

Within 5 minutes, the rumbling completely disappeared and I was able to function normally again.

12 hours is too long for me!

This morning, I had the same problem. The last bit of food I had last night was around 7:00 p.m. This morning I woke up around 7:00 -- 12 hours later -- and I wasn't hungry so I didn't eat until 3 hours later -- that's 15 hours! Oh dear -- and the inevitable occurred: first the rumbling, and then Big D, and pretty soon severe cramping, a full-fledged attack. ARGGGH!

I wasn't hungry, so I curled up with a heating pad on my tummy. Tummy tried to calm down, but it was screaming for food. Why eat when I'm not hungry, right?

WRONG! I forced a slice of toast down me, and the minute the first bite hit my tummy, it immediately calmed down.

I don't really have meals, not what most people think of as meals anyway. I have one thing on my plate, only one, never any more than that. If I have a salad, I chomp down some plain saltines as I'm making the salad. But that's my meal, nothing more. If I have an ear of corn, I have the saltines first, then the corn. But that ear of corn is my entire meal, nothing more.

Ditto with my turkey meatloaf. Just the meatloaf, nothing more.

What I recommend is to keep a food journal. Enter the time you eat the item, what the item is and how much, and leave a column for "comments" in which you can later insert reactions that your body had to that food. Then, have your little mini-meals throughout the day as your tummy wants. You'll see a pattern develop and pretty soon you'll know how often to chomp down on a rice cake.

I took the peppermint caps once a day, but they quickly caused indigestion, so I had to give them up. If I could take them, though, I think I'd opt to take them only as needed, whenever I had an attack, as an antispasmodic, as I do my heavy-duty meds (Hyoscyamine and Donnatal).

Bev

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Uh oh Bev!! new
      #87759 - 07/08/04 10:41 AM
RachelT

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Uh oh Bev, I hope you're feeling better! By the way, how'd the tests go?? What were they for?? (I hope you don't mind me asking?)

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      #87772 - 07/08/04 11:05 AM
atomic rose

Reged: 06/01/04
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Loc: Maine (IBS-A stable since July '05!)

When I'm eating (which is a whole story unto itself), I eat a little something about every 2 hours. And I do mean a LITTLE something. The only way I differentiate between meals and snacks is the time of day: what I eat within an hour of waking up is breakfast, what I eat when my boyfriend's home on his dinner break is dinner, and so on.

The closest I come to a "full meal" is that occasionally, for dinner, I'll eat tiny portions of everything he's eating... we're talking maybe 1/2 cup rice, 1/4 cup veggie, and 1/2 of a chicken breast half. In those cases, I'm usually full enough afterwards that I don't eat again till breakfast (but I'll also add that we eat dinner pretty late).

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Re: how frequent are frequent small meals? Also pep caps? new
      #87778 - 07/08/04 11:12 AM
raindew01

Reged: 07/07/04
Posts: 75
Loc: Toronto, Ontario - Canada.

Thanks for your responses, everybody. They're helpful to hear. And that's a good idea about the diary.

I guess I'm a little afraid to trust my judgement about food, because I have had in the past a response to carbs where I eat some, and loooove them, and I never feel full; right away after I eat I feel like eating more of them. (Which is why I went on the carbohydrate addict diet for a while...but now I can't.)

So far, because of the severe D, I'm not really having that problem...at least not totally. Because I'm still on the basic "what to eat when you can't eat" diet thing, and mainly just having white bread and pretzels, I'm hungry (I'm assuming) because I'm not getting any protein etc..... So I eat say 3 slices of bread, and an hour later I want to eat more. But I don't want to stuff myself...and I don't know how to know what my body needs, how to trust it.

Still...I'm kinda excited...today's the first day where I haven't had liquid D yet! The fourth day on this diet. Hurray, hurray! (and a big sigh of relief)

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      #87780 - 07/08/04 11:14 AM
Bevvy

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I'm fine. I'm fine. I just should know better than to go so long between meals.

The tests are for my blood pressure and cholesterol. The doc has me on Hydrochlorothyazide for the blood pressure, and it's working pretty well (although it tends to make me nauseated and a little woozy), but now he's watching my LDL and HDL. The bad one is a little high. Nothing to be concerned about, but I've been trying to lower it by taking in a lot of flax seed oil and omega-3 and omega-6 oil from salmon.

I've been bad, though, because I haven't exercised like I'm supposed to. This rowing machine is sitting in the middle of the room, glaring at me, and I keep tripping over the damn thing -- but will I climb on it and pull my guts out like I'm supposed to? NOOOOOOOOOO.....

I'm a bad girl.

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YAY!!! Keep going!!! - nt new
      #87781 - 07/08/04 11:14 AM
RachelT

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Re: how frequent are frequent small meals? Also pep caps? new
      #87783 - 07/08/04 11:15 AM
suzyq

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Have you tried eating applesauce and/or a banana? How about rice? What are you drinking? Sue

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      #87784 - 07/08/04 11:15 AM
raindew01

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Loc: Toronto, Ontario - Canada.

Thanks for the great detail. That helps. And the great idea about the food journal. I just started keeping one. And I found that a neat tip, that if you're feeling awful and not hungry, it may still help to have a bit of soluble.

I hope you're feeling better now.

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      #87785 - 07/08/04 11:16 AM
RachelT

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lol!!!! You always make me laugh! I know what you mean about excercise...I just took a walk, the second in say a month!

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Re: how frequent are frequent small meals? Also pep caps? new
      #87786 - 07/08/04 11:19 AM
raindew01

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Loc: Toronto, Ontario - Canada.

I haven't tried applesauce or a banana, yet. I guess I've been afraid to, because I'm just starting out and it wasn't on the 'what to eat when you can't eat anything' diet...but I'd like to. I remember reading it somewhere else.

All I'm drinking is peppermint tea and water.

As to rice...I probably will again, but my first day on this diet, it was the first thing I ate, thinking (hoping) it'd be safe...I was out at a restaurant with someone...and I had a bad D reaction, and since then it's had a bad association with me. (I usually don't eat now for about 1-2 hours before I go out.)

Speaking of which--have to go.

Thanks, you guys. You're great!

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      #87789 - 07/08/04 11:22 AM
ibsgrl

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eating small "meals" - more like snacks to other people also works SO MUCH BETTER FOR ME. I will admit that I never really had to do this before & only became a problem when I previously struggled with an eating disorder. During those times, my only meal of the day was dinner - you can imagine the pain, bloating and discomfort that inevitably follows doing that for quite some well. Well, now ironically (call it karma...) I get these feelings no matter what and when I eat. Smaller portions is the one thing that eases it somewhat, as you all know.

Well, my eating issues DEFINITELY, WITHOUT A DOUBT contributed to the situation I have now (IBS). Yet it is SO HARD (and I CAN see why...) to relay this message to my parents that my eating habits are due to the ibs and wanting to improve and not aggravate my symptoms, NOT because I am trying to AVOID FOOD, as I was before. Sometimes I feel they get annoyed at me for seriously, not wanting to eat a hamburger, or some steak (last night). It's just that not only am I put off by that type of meat lately, I KNOW it will wreck havoc on my sensitive tum - and I have told them time and time again that this is the reason. I'm quite satisfied with chicken, thanks.

At dinnertime, if I don't eat a substantial amount - the amount THEY can eat, they automatically assume its "food issues." Well, lucky for me, it is not those food issues, but unfortunately it is STILL food issues - but IBS ones instead! *sigh* It is tough to communicate that these smaller portions are much easier for my stomach to handle.

As I go about my day, snacking, I feel ok, but once it comes dinner time, I am guilted into consuming more than my stomach would like.
I have discussed this with them, as well as my doctor, as well as my mom and doctor AT THE SAME TIME. However, it's STILL next to impossible to "convince" them (my mom/dad/family NOT my doctor!)that I just can't handle so much at once anymore.

I think they are starting to "get it" a little more, as it is noticeable I have gained weight, therefore, AM eating but its still an uphill battle, so it seems.

Gosh, it really is so nice to have you guys as a sounding board because I feel you can see where I am coming from and if you've read this far, that you care.
Thanks for everything thus far!

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      #87801 - 07/08/04 11:34 AM
RachelT

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Oh Caryn, that's so frustrating isn't it? I feel for ya! Sometimes my one friend will say crap like "it's only once, it's not gonna hurt you!". I just want to slap her when she does that to me. Ok, fine if you don't understand, but let me eat the way I need to eat, don't try to make me feel guilty into eating the you think I should eat!!!! GRRRR!!

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      #87813 - 07/08/04 11:48 AM
ibsgrl

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Oh I totally know. Its like, ok, I'll eat it and then you can take over my stomach for a while, k?
ARGH! lol

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Re: how frequent are frequent small meals? Also pep caps? new
      #87909 - 07/08/04 02:05 PM
LauraSue

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Quote:

Still...I'm kinda excited...today's the first day where I haven't had liquid D yet! The fourth day on this diet. Hurray, hurray! (and a big sigh of relief)




Raindew, that's GREAT!!!! Congratulations!!!! AWESOME!!!!

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      #87927 - 07/08/04 02:26 PM
teethcleaner

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Loc: California

That must be hard for you! people that don't have IBS don't understand! Even my totally supportive husband (usually) he came up to me the other day and shoved a chocolate bar in my face was like here I saved you some have a little bite I was kind of upset at him but he was trying to be nice at the same time he knew I can't eat that stuff

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