bagels
#37987 - 01/16/04 11:38 AM
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I dearly love my bagels with cream cheese (dairy doesn't seem to have that bad of an effect on me), but I was wondering if bagels themselves are good for you? They are low fat, but not sure of the fiber content.. Also I recently had an oral implant and am on an antibiotic, for now my pain is gone, I know it will come back, but for now i'm almost pain free!
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Re: bagels
#37989 - 01/16/04 11:42 AM
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louise
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Hi ROSIE; I thought bagels were one of Heather's rec. foods. They are fine for me, if I don't eat too much of them. Of course, there are some huge bagels that just sit in ny stomach and I almist feel sick when I had it before.
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Re: bagels
#37991 - 01/16/04 11:43 AM
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Bevvy
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Bagels are fine, soluble fiber. They're great (especially the basil & sun-dried tomato kind). I would worry more about the dairy cream cheese. Have you tried the soy cream cheese?
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Re: bagels
#37993 - 01/16/04 11:45 AM
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sherr1
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Loc: Southern, Calif
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Bagels are great and you can buy some better than cream cheese by tofutti add some of your own safe fruit to it and spread it on. Watch some bagels though they have added fillers that might irritate you. Try a sourdough bagel.
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I love bagels. I usually stick with plain -- just to be safe. I usually have them with the Tofutti better than cream cheese. Yummy and safe. 
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Re: bagels
#38012 - 01/16/04 12:11 PM
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Lana_Marie
Reged: 01/31/03
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Loc: Saskatchewan. Canada
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I would also recommend ditching the cream cheese. So many people say that "Dairy doesn't affect them" and then once they cut it out they realize what a trigger it really was.
Maybe you could sub the cream cheese for peanut butter or seedless jam too!
As for bagels...I would stay away from the multigrain bagels or ones with cheese in them. Stick with the plain white bagels or white bagels with "Safe" additions (ie: Sundried tomato etc)
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Oh, YEAH! I forgot. A hundred years ago, my doctor sent me to a nutritionist, and she set up a program for me based on "The Zone" (yeah, I know, you're all too young -- never heard of it -- I know, I know) --
Any-who . . . I was supposed to have a toasted plain bagel with peanut butter on it every morning for breakfast. That was SOOOOOOO good. I'd forgotten about it.
GREAT idea, Pretty Lady -- I'm gonna try it tomorrow morning! 
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I like almond butter, best - yum-diddly-umptious!!
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Is your almond butter sweetened, Shells? Because I bought some for a recipe not too long ago, but it's unsweetened and I haven't found anything else to use it for!
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OOH. That sounds really good! I love almond butter. Is it any higher in fat than peanut butter? We can grind our own fresh at the coop.
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Can we eat Nutella? NT
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Okay, my turn. What the heck is nutella?!
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It's like peanut butter except it is really creamy, made out of hazel nuts, and has swirls of chocolate in it. It is really yummy, but 2 T has 210 calories. I give it to my son to help him gain weight. It also has milk sugar and low fat milk powder in it. Also fat calories are 110.
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" . . . like peanut butter except it is really creamy, made out of hazel nuts, and has swirls of chocolate in it" -- ?! OMG! -- I SOOOOO don't need to know about this!
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I've checked. And I wanted to try it so much. 
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Well -- it has less fat than peanut butter. The doc told me it's healthier than peanut butter -- I forgot about the dairy -- it's skim milk in it... it is a very small amount -- so if you just use a small amount of the nutella -- and you are not super sensitive -- you should be okay. Sorry I brought it up. I haven't had peanut butter or nutella since I found out I have IBS -- I was just thinking that if you all thought peanut butter was okay =-- that Nutella would be even better -- forgot about the dairy.... 
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I can't remember the ratio of fats in almonds, but I'm sure it's more heart healthy than peanut butter - and peanuts do contain some lectins which can be unhealthy for some people. I think peanuts are higher in saturated fat. Plus almonds are high in nutrients, especially calcium.
YUMMY!
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Haven't had any for a while, but I'll check next time to go to that health-food shop. Don't think it was sweetened. I just liked a little bit now and then on an oat-cake or something.
Shells
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nutella is a yummy yummy yummy chocokate hazelnut paste that i assumed was a huge NO NO...Oh my gosh...can we eat it????
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#38459 - 01/17/04 07:25 PM
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Kree
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Yeah, I stopped eating peanut butter long before finding this site because fods containing peanuts bother me sometimes. I started eating soy nut butter because it was the best substitute for PB I could find. I've been eating soy nut butter for almost a year, and I really don't even notice that it's not PB anymore! It's also nice to know that it's lower in fat than PB. I have SBJs (soynut butter and jelly sandwiches!) at least a couple times a week!
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My doc told me that peanut butter wasn't such a great thing and told me all those things you shared -- which is why I used to indulge in the nutella every now and then (before I found out I had IBS). Today when I went to the health food store I found some chocolate soy nut butter -- it says it is dairy, peanut & gluten free. It doesn't need to be refridgerated - and doesn't have any trans fats. It has 50% less sugar than other chocolate spreads -and is made from Non-GMO roasted soybeans. It is not what I would consider lowfat or low cal -- so a little bit would need to go a long way -- but as a treat now and then .....
2 tbsp= 190 cals
14 g fat
2 g sat fat
0 mg chol
0 mg sod
12 g carb
3 g dietary fiber
9 g sugar
6 g protein
Ingredients: roated soybeans, naurally pressed soybean oil, granualted cane juice, cocoa, mono and diglycerides, natural vanilla.
It is the I.M. Healthy brand. I haven't tried it yet - just thought I'd share -- I'll let you know what it tastes like when I get a chance to try it.
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Thanks for the info. I'll have to try that. I hope our coop carries it.
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That's the brand I use, but I've never tried the chocolate! You'll have to let us know how it is. Sounds like something I'd like a lot! Their regular soy nut butter is certainly good.
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The nutritionnist I saw last week made me buy apple butter. I know we're both in Québec City, but the one I bought is made in Michigan. It's called Eden Organic Apple Butter and it only countains organic apple juice concentrate and organic apples. It's defenetly a winning combination! You can take a look at their web site: www.edenfoods.com.
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I thought all juices and real butters were bad! I was wrong all this time???? Mercy me.....
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