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Well first of congrats on the weight lose. Second sorry your feeling blue and confused. Have you tried a fiber suplement to see if that helps? I took metabolite for about 1 month 2 years ago to try and drop pounds. I didn't like it and I only took one a day. It had no ephedra or caffiene.
I spoke with other women taking the metabolife and there are some awful side effects and warnings. I never have been one to have problems with IBS until recently after a flu bacteria set it's pace in my Gi track. It's taking me quite some time to recover and now IBS.. It can come anytime in life something may bring it on and stress a big one, in some of us. Dirvccc?? Is when feces stick to intestinal walls? Supplements and diet can take care of it? It can mimic IBS too? See those docs..in the mean time it wouldn't hurt you to try the diet and see how you feel or some of the supplements. My heart goes out to you..knowing how fustrating it is not knowing whats wrong and the docs guessing.How about trying a probiotic like prebio7 it claims to help with distention and bloating. Hang in there and I'm rooting for a good outcome for you!
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Heather - WOW! I'd never heard of the "insult to the gut" thing, but that certainly makes sense. I've cut and pasted the ingredients of the Ephedra-free Metabolife below; do any of these ingredients set off "alarm bells" to you?
I'm going to read up on the Rome I criteria too; thank you for posting the link to that.
I will definitely let you know how that UWMC appointment works out. My husband says that the UW has one of the best medical facilities on the West Coast (he's a graduate student at UW), and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I'll finally be able to talk to someone who 1) will listen and 2) will know what he/she is talking about.
You all are awesome, and Heather you are a goddess - I don't know what I'd do without you!
Manufacturer's Description
Boost your energy and enhance your diet with Metabolife's ephedra-free tablets. Using a precise blend of herbs and other nutrients, this supplement offer the same benefits of other Metabolife formulas, but without ephedra. Taken as directed before a meal, the supplement may also help with weight loss. Each tablet contains 40 mg caffeine alkaloids.
Label Information
Ingredients
Calcium (as hydroxycitrate and dicalcium phosphate) (50 mg), Chromium (as chromium piccolinate) (150 mcg), Sodium (60 mg), Potassium (30 mg), and a proprietary blend (1,132 mg total) of the following: Green tea extract (leaf) (standardized for EGCG and total catechins), Super Citrimax Garcinia cambogia extract (fruit) (standardized for hydroxycitric acid), Guarana extract (seed) (standardized for caffeine), Yerba mate extract (leaf) (standardized for caffeine).
Other ingredients: Modified cellulose, maltodextrin, caffeine, dicalcium phosphate, stearic acid, sodium bicarbonate, silica, dextrin, citric acid, dextrose, lecithin, sodium carboxymethylcellulose, sodium citrate.
Directions
Take 2 tablets 3 times per day, one hour before each meal. Do not exceed recommended servings. As with any dietary supplement, read all label warnings and directions before taking Ephedra-Free Metabolife.
Warnings
Do not take if pregnant or nursing. Not for use by persons under age 12. Consult with a health care professional prior to use by persons between the ages of 12 and 18. If you have any medical condition or are taking any medication consult a health care professional prior to use. The recommended dose of this product contains about as much caffeine as a cup of coffee. Limit the use of caffeine-containing medications, foods, or beverages while taking this product because too much caffeine may cause nervousness, sleeplessness, and occasionally rapid heart beat. Keep out of reach of children. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size: 2 Tablets
Calories Total: 5
(Amount per serving, followed by percent of daily value)
Sodium: 60 mg, 2%
Potassium: 30 mg, less than 1%
Total Carbohydrate: 1 g, less than 1%
Calcium 50 mg 5%
Chromium (as chromium picolinate) 150 mcg 125%
Proprietary Blend: 1132 mg*
Green Tea Extract (leaf) (standardized for EGCG and total catechins)
Super Citrimax Garcinia cambogia extract (fruit) (standardized for hydroxycitric acid)
Guarana Extract (seed) (standardized for caffeine)
Yerba Mate Extract (leaf) (standardized for caffeine)
*Daily Value not established.
Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
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Hi - I actually have no idea about most of those ingredients - I'm sorry!  It doesn't sound like there's enough caffeine in there to so over-stimulate the gut it could trigger IBS. And things like the chromium I just don't know about. You might actually take the list to the UW docs and ask what they think. They'll be well-aware of the insult to the gut theory, and may also have some ideas of something else in your history that could fall into that category.
The UW is a great medical facility. They have some of the top IBS researchers in the country, including Margaret Heitkemper and Monica Jarrett (sp?). I don't think they're MDs, though, but PhD researchers, and I'm not sure if they actually see patients. Still, it makes sense to me that they'd be part of a team of IBS docs in general, so I'd assume some of the GI docs who do treat patients there are top notch. Hopefully, they're nice as well. 
I think that Novartis has done a lot of funding and grant-giving to the IBS folks at UW, so it will be interesting to see if that has swayed their point of view on Zelnorm. Not sure that's at all relevant to you, it's just something I'm curious about.
Keep us posted!
- Heather
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Heather - I'd heard from someone who also took Metabolife that the chromium resulted in him having to have his gallbladder removed - but he also has a twitchy stomach anyway, so it could have been anything. Thank you for looking at the list of ingredients.
I'm seeing a Dr. Hwong (Not sure of the spelling), and there will be a "fellow" there as well...not sure what that is.
I've actually tried the Zelnorm - other than giving me the runs something terrible, it didn't help with the bloating or pain; just made going to the bathroom a bad adventure. It also costs $140 for a month's prescription, though if it worked I'd have paid double that, you know?
I will definitely keep you posted, and thank you for taking an interest in my situation.
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Becca, welcome to the boards. As others have said, don't worry about sound negative. We all get down once and a while... not feeling well will do that to you! Your symptoms certainly sound like IBS, but you're very smart to be looking into other doctors and getting it diagnosed for sure. That's something you should always do, because the symptoms can be so similar to other problems like Crohns and Colitis. As for your symptoms changing over time, mine have definitely done that too. For a while I was having diarhea, and now that I've start controling my diet and avoiding triggers I'm back to the constipation that's plagued me most of my life. Plus my bloating and gas is constantly changing locations, etc. I guess that's just part of the condition. Good luck with your upcoming appointment at the University of Washington, and I hope you get diagnosed for sure soon! Feel free to post here with whatever questions you might have!
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I sat here day after day an read what you all write.I,m not good at putting into words what I,m trying to say.but here go as you can see I,m not good at typeing or the computer.I,m 69 years old.been marryed for 52 years right to the same man.an had four children an raise our grandaughter.my husband was in the service for 21 years then
the police department for 19 years.I was told for years I had a nervoris tummy because I had d.I keep going to doctors an they would tell me the same thing.finally the last few years it got so bad I had to stop work.couldn,t even get to work with out stopping.finally the last 2 years the pain started.really bad.then they took my gall bladder out.still pain.run all kind of test on me.the special said I didn,t have IBS.but a spastic colon which I found out from Heather is the same as IBS.so I went back to my reg,doctor first thing he said was I had IBS.so who do you believe I think Heather because she has been there.I have high blood pressure an I,m a diabetic I give myself 2 shots a day.an a hiatel hernia.I don,t want you all to feel sorry for me .because I do have a wonderful husband who takes very good care of me.yes I have had a lot of stress in my life.with a husband over seas fighting a war .an then trying to raise 5 chilren by myself most of the time.but what I,m trying to say is when nothing was going on bad in my life I get IBS.we are retired,our children are all gone.we have very little money problams.we have a new car,house,RV.an I still get IBS.so will some one please explain this to me .Gerry. 
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Hey There, Gerry!
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Gerry, bless your heart, thank you for sharing your story. My hubby is your age; luckily he hasn't had a sick day in his life! (Why is that?!?)
You want someone to "explain it to [you]." I wish I could. I'm sure all of us wish we could. When I read your post, and came to your question at the end, the thing that came to my mind is: "boy, no one gets through this life scott-free." It seems, just when things began to turn around for us, something comes along to throw a wrench in it. 
Have you thought about the hypnotherapy program? Actually, it was my hubby's suggestion. I read him your post, and, since you're the same age, he was able to emphathize with you. He said it's worked well for me (he's noticed!), so maybe it would work for you too. Why not give it a try, Gerry?
It's good to hear from you.
Bev.
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please for give my spelling.I know some of the words are spell wrong. 
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Thanks Bev.it is so nice to know there is so many of us who have IBS.that really care about each others.no I haven,t tryed the hypnotherapy.maybe I will give it a try.Gerry 
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