Dr. Dahlman
#35728 - 01/07/04 01:36 PM
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michele
Reged: 06/02/03
Posts: 6886
Loc: southeastern michigan
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Has anyone tried his plan?? I just spent a hour reading his article(sorry, not good with computers and don't know how to post the link) It was very interesting. But he claims he can "cure" anyones IBS-I of the mind set, if it sounds to good to be true than it probably is?!
Just wanted to see if anyone else has read his theories and what you think?
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I too would like to know if anyone has tried his program. I'm reluctant to be treated over the internet, but much of what he says sounds persuasive and seems to make sense.
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I'm trying it
#35744 - 01/07/04 03:31 PM
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Karin
Reged: 02/11/03
Posts: 483
Loc: Southern California
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I am going to start his program next week when I receive the supplements. Have you downloaded the document he offers on the website? It's free. I don't know if this will work, but I'm open to trying. I promised him I would keep this board and another one I'm on apprised of my progress. In one way it's similar to the Eating for IBS diet, as you are on a strict no dairy diet. The probiotics and enzymes are the added touch that I haven't been able to figure out on my own, so we'll just have to see what happens.
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I was curious so I looked up the website. To be honest, I'm really weary about taking any sort of suppliments (besides fiber suppliments) so I'm curious as to if anyone else has heard of this. Also, have you heard about this Heather?
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I believe Dr Dalhman who is a chiropracter is not medically certified to treat gastro problems over the internet.
You also cannot cure something you don't know the cause of?
I believe what he is doing is wrong!
I am not the only one who believes this either.
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My website on IBS is www.ibshealth.com
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Yes, I've read through his site, and seen his numerous argumentative posts on other IBS internet message boards. Some of what he says is common sense (avoid dairy, find out if you have a gluten intolerance, probiotics can be helpful). Much of what he says is not (IBS is bacterial in nature, he guarantees he has cured - permanently cured - every IBS patient he's ever seen). I'm not sure that what he proposes is particularly harmful, but neither do I believe that taking his supplements and talking to him on the phone will cure a gut motility disorder that is pretty well-established to stem from the enteric nervous system, and the way that system interacts with the brain. There's nothing bacterial in nature about this dysfunction, and there's no way to cure a nervous system disorder through probiotics and such.
That's my two cents. 
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That's what I thought. Thanks for your input.
Raiken
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I think Shells and I addressed this issue to someone else when asked.
You couldn't have put it better!!!!!
I don't trust a person like this...................it almost seem like he is a "get rich quick" artist who has taken some info from here and there and made it his own. From what I understand, a bacterial disorder of the gut is almost impossible to positively detect, so he's on safe ground using this as the culprit.
Kandee
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Re: Dr. Dahlman
#35795 - 01/07/04 07:46 PM
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Kandee
Reged: 05/22/03
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Loc: USA, Southern California
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Well put Shawn...................lets expose him for what he really is, and save people from spending their money needlessly....
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you are so right.I went to my doc.for help yesterday an he said just stay off of food that will make me gas.I,m a diabetic an he is afraid to give me any thing.it is so new that they don,t know what to do.not the IBS that is old but trying to fine out what to do for it.
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Neta G.Yale
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Well, I personally have a cupboard full of trial and error supplements I have tried on my own at quite an expense. We've all here discussed probiotics and digestive enzymes, such as which ones to take, when to take them and how many to take. I'd rather have someone who has more knowledge than I do on them help me wade through the process. If it doesn't work, then so be it. If it does work, I win. As you said, nothing is particularly harmful and really nothing seems to be out of the norm of what others recommend for IBS. It's just a matter of living by the diet and taking the supplements for 3 months. The Eating for IBS diet is a main part of my recovery, I couldn't have gotten this far without it, but there is still room for improvement and I'm trying to find it. Let's face it, we're all grasping for straws in this predicament we've been dealt.
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#35808 - 01/07/04 10:36 PM
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bauie25
Reged: 11/23/03
Posts: 69
Loc: Iowa
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I also read through his site a couple of days ago... let me know how it works out for you. Many individuals are skeptacle because they've tried a variety of treatments, but I figure... what's one more that guarantees your money back!? PLEASE keep me posted on your results Thanks so much!
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That's pretty much what I thought but wanted to hear a few other opinions.
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- Jennifer
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My, my, my! Here we go again. I'm astounded at the attacks that keep coming my way. Is it really so hard to believe that someone actually has put together a plan in a way that works? I have fought this battle on the Ibsgroup.org bulletin board and now am letting my patients speak for me.
The thread, "Dr Dahlman's patient" is beginning to generate info from a group of people who have taken me up on my offer to treat them with out charging for my time and only charging them my costs for the products they use. Already some are seeing positive results, though most just started this week. I will eliminate ALL symptoms for them in just a few months.
Here is what I will not address in any of them: I will not test for genetic abnormalities or the presence of viruses. I will not test for gut motility, visceral hypersensitivity, serontonin levels or the condition of their enteric nervous system because I believe these proven, observed problems in IBS, IBD, Crohn's or Colitis are caused by the imbalances that I mention in my article. They will all get well.
For those of you who believe I am wrong, you then must believe that these proven, observed problems ocurred first and then caused the IBS, IBD, Crohn's or Colitis. The preverbial chicken or the egg. Could it be the other way around?
I won't respond to your attacks. If you would like to discuss any part of my program, I would be happy to, but I will mostly allow my patients to speak for me at Ibsgroup.org.
I have been called a "scammer" and accused on only doing this for the money. None of you know me and none of you know how many low income people I treat for nothing. All in an age where traditional medicine rejects Medicare and Medicaid patients. None of you know how much time I don't charge for when I take any phone calls from anyone who is using my protocol with or without my consultation or products. I also am available to any of my patients by phone or e-mail for quick questions that I also don't cahrge for.
I have yet to discuss any substantive issues on any bulletin board with any doctor of any kind. None of you see any patients or are licensed to diagnose or treat anything, yet you all have opinions. I have no value to some of you because I'm not a specialist nor am I an MD. Chiropractors are held in very little esteem by some. Hence, my money back guarantee.
Because of the skepticism that I experience everyday, I wanted to give people a feeling of confidence when they make a decision as to whether they should come to my office. My offer of this guarantee is taken up 2-5 times each day. I am gratified by it and realize that I can't treat everybody, so if you choose not to go in this direction, I understand. It's a difference in personality, not a right or a wrong. Heck, we can't all agree on who to vote for President. 
But let's all do me a favor. Don't attack. Ask polite questions and I'll be happy to respond. And please check out the other bulletin board to see how my patients are doing.
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Dr. Dahlman....
Until you pay monthly for this website, it is NOT the place to peddle your wares.
Fine, you feel you have a cure...If we are interested we will contact YOU.
Please don't step on Heather's toes...you believe what you believe and we believe what we believe.
Good day sir!!
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Lana_Marie
Proud Mommy to Bentley Taylor
Born May 12, 2004 9lbs, 3oz
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I personally have not tried Dr. Dahlman's treatment but greatly resent the critisim of his opinions because he is a chiroprator. My chiroprator has recommened so many good suggestions for IBS. It might interest others to know it takes longer to become a chiropractor than it does an MD and the subjects they cover involve the entire body. If fact my primary care physician and chiropractor work together to help me with what I need. ISB is a tough problem and what works for one does not work for all. We need all the help we can get.
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Everyone who goes to my website has the option to read and use my information and go to their local health food store to buy similar products or the internet to buy exactly the same products from someone else and still have access to me for e-mail questions or a quick phone call that I don't charge for. That's not peddling, that's giving it away. Thanks for the immediate attack.
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That's not peddling, that's giving it away. Thanks for the immediate attack.
You are peddling when you are NOT on your own website...when you meander into a site that doesn't concern you.
You wanna advertise...get a license like everyone else and post it on telephone poles.
This site is NOT designed for you or your peddling....if we want to discuss anything with you WE WILL CALL YOU.
PS - Sorry Heather...but honestly - this guy needs to go away!!! And trust the "bitchy" pregnant lady to voice her opinion LOL 
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Lana_Marie
Proud Mommy to Bentley Taylor
Born May 12, 2004 9lbs, 3oz
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It's so-called professionals like this guy that make me appreciate Heather SOOOO much! My hubby is very skeptical of people, always has been -- but not of Heather. He just said to me, "While it is true that Heather makes money off IBS, she has demonstrated over and over again that her primary concern is not financial gain but the welfare of people suffering from IBS."
I really could not have said it any better. Heather, THANK YOU SO MUCH -- we all here appreciate you and are VERY grateful to you for every contribution to make to our health and well-being.
Bev & Don
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OH MY, WHAT HAVE I STARTED??!!
Well since Dr. Dahlman has decided to join in personally, I do have a couple of questions. My biggest is that if you believe IBS is bacterial in nature, why does it cause both C and D? Everyone I have read that comments on using your method has IBS D, I am a severly C person. Infact without a daily dose of miralax I do NOT poop! So if I follow your protocol and stop my miralax and acacia fiber I am afraid how long it would be before I had a BM??? I have tried 3 times in as many years to stop miralax, with the same results-no BMs!
Its great to hear you help people to can't afford your services. Everyone needs to make a living. What makes me most skeptical is your claim to "cure" EVERY IBS case. People still die from the common flu bug, it really seems incredable that you can cure EVERYONE when all the collective doctors everyone else has been to, can't even help most of us. My statements are not ment to be attacks on you-but can't you see why so many of us are hesitant to believe all your claims?
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Since the doc has said he is so open with his "cure" would someone please copy and paste his method here for all to see and comment on?
Since he's decided to join us, maybe he himself would do it?????
If it is a matter of dietary restrictions and good digestive enzymes and a good probiotic I should have been "cured" months ago. Just didn't happen...........And I have one of the best Alternative medicine M.D.'s in southern CA...........he's in his upper 70's (looks 50) and is not cheap!!!! Even he, with the massive amounts of supplements he's put me on, and dietary restrictions (not unlike Heathers except he forgot to add the soluble fiber factor) can see a difference in me.
So.............if this doc is as open as Heather and NOT out to get rich, and really IS concerned with HONESTLY helpling people with IBS, let's see his cards!!!!
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Michele -
I think any questions you have regarding Dr. Dahlman should be taken up on his website...
I can't speak for everyone, but personally I have no interest in reading his "crap."
I know I don't have to read it then...but honestly the website is not set up for him - it's set up for discussion on Heather's diet procedures and questions surrounding that...I really think we should respect that!
Do you not agree?
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Lana_Marie
Proud Mommy to Bentley Taylor
Born May 12, 2004 9lbs, 3oz
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Well said Bevrs....
And with having said all that I think we all need to UP our own individual contibutions to her newsletter just to help keep her afloat and helping us....
I for one AM....................
Kandee
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Dr. Dahlman's website and email are available to anyone interested in his work. His information is not related to the Eating for IBS diet, which is the clearly stated focus of this board.
I have seen too many Dr. Dahlman threads on other IBS message boards spiral terribly out of control and into attacks and counter-attacks, and that is simply not going to be permitted on this site.
Thank you to all of you for understanding.
Best,
Heather
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