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#335165 - 08/23/08 02:09 PM
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The reason antibiotics help some people is because most irritable bowell syndrome is caused by a highly contagus fungal infection, and when it see's an antiboitoc it has the ability to go dormant therefore the person feels better, however since taking antibiotics is what caused the infection, when you stop the condition returns and is worse.
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That's been the opposite for me... Antibiotics cannot treat a fungal infection and every time I take antibiotics it makes the candida (fungal infection) worse both thrush, in my "gut" and "other places". I avoid antibiotics like the plague inasmuch as they are the reason I have been diagnosed with CFIDS, Fibromyalgia and Candida - years of antibiotic usage due to multiple infections. I wish they would help!
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brogers, I am not sure where you got the information you posted, but with all due respect it is totally inaccurate.
IBS is NOT and Infection and is NOT highly contagious and IBS is itself a distint clinical entity. Candida is in the gut in the first place to HELP fight infections. There is no evidence of it even being a problem with the immune system that is observed by immunologists. There are real candida infections which are rarer and can kill a person however. IBS is not an infection or caused by candida or yeast. In the above posts are accurate candida research and information. They are now sequencing its dna.
GaGa, IBS and CFIS and Fibro share common issues for sure but it is not candida and so you know the "candida overgrowth" that is being talked about here has never been found in anyone 20 years or so since it was first speculated on by someone who was not even a reasercher, by any gastroenterologist, neurogastroenterologist, immunologist,except basically on the internet and some unorthodox practioners.
It use to be in the past people would use the term IBS as a "catch all" diagnoses for any kind of digestive upset, but that is no longer the case.
It might help to watch these videos and one expert on Fibro and IBS is DR Lin Chang, so you know. Some people might not get the right kinds of treatments for there problems.
Antibiotics are killing all the good bacteria and that can open you up to some problems in protecting yourself. Antibiotics can be over prescribed and one common problem is C-diff infection. The gut flora usally returns to normal a couple weeks after taking most of them naturally however when a person really needs to take them.
These are very up to date and excellent information on IBS.
http://www.aboutibs.org/site/learning-center/video-corner/
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thats not true about IBS and even if it was, antibiotics make fungal infections worse.
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Re: shawneric
#335179 - 08/24/08 05:36 AM
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GaGa
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Shawneric,
Thank you for the information... I guess I'm just going to have to keep on researching and researching until I find an answer. Have you heard of the new IBS blood test being promoted by Prometheus Labs in CA? After being told I had IBS for years, this one blood test now says I do not. Also, multiple drs. have told me I have candidiasis - thrush, leaky gut, etc.... Then there are the alternative "people" like Doug Kaufman, Dr. Janet Maccaro, Dr. Don Colbert and even Jordan Rubin who all support the candida theory - as do most HFS trained personnel/clinicans/naturopaths. So, what am I to believe? This weekend, out of pure depression, I ate a chocolate bar and did drink one Sprite -within 24 hours I have thrush and other related intestinal symptoms. GI doctor says IBS - general practitioner (who did the IBS blood test) - says candida. "What's a mother to do?" I'll check out the website listed and thank you again...Dorothy
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There isn't a proven blood test for IBS. And Prometheus labs has not published any research papers in reputable IBS research journals on the use of their technique for detecting IBS. Also note that Prometheus labs claims their test only has a 50% sensitivity - not very good for a diagnostic test. Also the company says their test is only an aid for clinicians. It is not a definitive test. If you think your IBS was misdiagnosed by your GI doctor then ask for a second opinion from another GI doctor.
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The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms
Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach
FODMAP Chart & Cheatsheet
The Role of Food & Dietary Intervention in IBS
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I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying there is no such thing as candida overgrowth, and/or that it does not cause bowel problems?
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"Are you saying there is no such thing as candida overgrowth, and/or that it does not cause bowel problems?"
There are many thing to learn and understand here in regards to candida itself in order to fully understand the issues here.
CDC
Candidiasis
http://www.cdc.gov/nczved/dfbmd/disease_listing/candidiasis_gi.html
Additional reading CDC
Welcome to Doctor Fungus, your on-line reference to all things mycological!! The Official Website of the Mycoses Study Group
http://www.doctorfungus.org/mycoses/human/candida/Chronic_Candidiasis.htm
The Australasian Society of Clinical Immunology and Allergy has issued this paper on Allergy testing and treatments. 2007
Unorthodox Techniques for the Diagnosis and Treatment of Allergy, Asthma and Immune Disorders
"INAPPROPRIATE TESTING
Chronic Candidiasis
http://www.allergy.org.au/pospapers/unorthodox.htm
Ask the Experts : UC Berkeley wellness letter
Q: What is yeast syndrome? A friend says she has it and must avoid sugar and foods made with yeast. H.S., VIA THE INTERNET
A: There's no evidence that this "syndrome" exists.
http://wellnessletter.com/test/html/wl/2001/wlAskExperts0101.html
Bacteria: More Than Pathogens Trudy M. Wassenaar
http://www.actionbioscience.org/biodiversity/wassenaar.html
There is candida, there is just not candida overgrowth syndrome in the gut as has been speculated some twenty years ago and still has not been found by anyone.
Most people have IBS which is NOT an infection by candida. Serious candida infections however can kill a person.
Mayo clinic ask the expert Food and nutrition specialist.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/candida-cleanse/AN01679
Gaga, I will post again on somethings in regards to your situation that may hopefully help the confusion.
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Great material Shawneric. The Berkeley newsletter link is broken. Here is the corrected link to the newsletter.
-------------------- STABLE: ♂, IBS-D 50+ years - Science of IBS
The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms
Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach
FODMAP Chart & Cheatsheet
The Role of Food & Dietary Intervention in IBS
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Re: Shawneric
#335197 - 08/24/08 11:21 AM
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We're realy keeping you busy, aren't we??? You should charge a fee!
I do agree with you that most medical professionals do not agree with the candida diagnosis - in fact, when I had an endoscopy, the GI was sure he would find it in my intestinal tract inasmuch as I had severe thrush - but, no it wasn't there. I think it is the alternative medicine side that is influencing the information/diagnosis of such. Thanks much! - Dorothy
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