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Good question. I would be interested in knowing the answer too. Perhaps it allows the IF to blend more with the other SF you eat as it is claimed happens with ground nuts in flour. There is evidence showing that boiling carrots in salt water degrades IF. Apparently the salt reduces the amount of insoluble polymers. Maybe it works the same for other vegetables and grains.
PS - what is you area of science?
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Wow, interesting.
That theory sounds good at first glance, but when you think about it... IF is by def insoluble, which means it won't dissociate in water. That would make it unlikely that it reacts with the Na+ and Cl- ions that arise from table salt dissolved in water... Although it doesn't mean it won't do it for sure. I wish I knew how (some) IF looked chemically it would be fun to look into
However, I think if we puree cooked lentils, then maybe the insoluble fiber is so well ground that our guts won't stress that much over it. Or maybe, because the soluble fiber is now easily accessible (it's not inside an IF hull), it will be able to ease the passing of the IF...
Syl, my area of science is Mathematics. How about your ?
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It isn't a matter of solublity. It is the degradation of fibre in the presence of ions and heat. Here is the reference. I can send you the full paper if you want. The experiment compared boiling carrots in 10, 100 and 400 mM NaCl and CaCl2 for 0, 4 and 25 mins.
Nyman, E. M. G.-L. and S. J. M. Svanberg, 2002: Modification of physicochemical properties of dietary fibre in carrots by mono- and divalent cations. Food Chemistry, 76, 273-280.
Perhaps it is the local (i.e. cellular or molecular) SF/IF ratio that makes a difference. When there are large bits of IF the local SF/IF could be quite low resulting in cellular distress. I also believe that starch may play a role too. A personal example is that I can eat 2-3 tbps of pureed lentils on a 1/2 cup rice usually without any problem but I cannot handle oat meal with large pieces of bran at all.
My research focus is complex systems and my educational background is biophysics, molecular biology and computer science.
Maybe Heather can create a scientific chat room for those of us that want to discuss the science of IBS. What say Heather?
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there are often other posts on the diet board about new studies that get posted in the research library forum on the boards. That forum is locked so it can only contain studies, and there really isn't a discussion board for the studies (especially all the ones that have nothing to do with diet or hypno) anywhere on this site.
I'm going to make a new post for this, with a survey, and take some time to think about it too. I try to keep the number of boards on the site limited so that they all stay active, and also so they all have clear areas of focus that don't totally overlap.
At first thought, though, this seems like a pretty promising area for an independent board.
Thank you for the suggestion!!!
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