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      #178191 - 05/11/05 08:01 AM
inknotsinKY

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Many years ago after a extremely stressful year of teaching I was diagnosed with IBS and put on buspar. got off Buspar because it made me excessively sleepy. I had horrible heartburn. Changed jobs and cities and never had a severe problem until recently. Don't know if I am really have IBS but I have all the symptoms and am SLOWLY trying to find out what the problem but making appointments and balancing my blood sugar is a challenge. ( I've been working on this for over 4 months.) Very frustrated and I need some help.

I am trying to put myself on my IBS diet, which should be easy, right, but I am also hypoglycemic so I can't eat rice and I am allergic to soy. Any links or help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Liz

Edited by inknotsinKY (05/11/05 09:34 AM)

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Re: new here new
      #178216 - 05/11/05 08:37 AM
Sand

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Welcome to the Boards. Good luck getting your doctor's appointments made so you can get a firm diagnosis. Until then, following Heather's diet certainly won't hurt.

I'm afraid I can't help with the hypoglycemic issues - I'm not sure what food issues there are with that condition, although I assume they have something to do with sugar. (No flies on me! )

However, there is no need to eat soy on Heather's diet. There are rice subsitutes for almost everything you can find soy substitutes for - I think the one exception is tofu. I use rice milk in cooking and on my cereal and it tastes fine to me. The rice ice cream I've tried is good, too. I haven't tried rice cheese, yet, but I'm just about to. (Big adventure.)

HTH, good luck, and - again - welcome.

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      #178220 - 05/11/05 08:47 AM
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Hello and welcome to the boards and this wonderful site Liz (we have 2 Liz's now)

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Re: new here new
      #178608 - 05/12/05 05:30 PM
freeda

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You said you can't eat rice... does that go for pasta too? (I'm not sure where pasta is on the glycemic index.) Have you started a soluble fiber supplement yet?

What I would suggest doing is printing out the "safe" foods from here, and print out the "safe" foods according to the glycemic index, and go thru them with a couple of highlighters. Make a list of anything that is on both lists.

I have to do the same thing, just with the weight management diet I am on, and the IBS stuff. It gets tricky. But I have had an improvement in my symptoms. (Until today when I ate a salad on an empty tummy! I forgot to ease the way with a banana first!)

Good luck to you!

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Re: new here new
      #178816 - 05/13/05 11:46 AM
Linz

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Hey there!

Btw, heartburn is NOT a regualr IBS symptom...it's just that IBS is a risk factor for GERDs so many of us have both. You need to get this treated with separate meds.

I like the highlighter idea. Also, lowering the GI index of dishes by adding veggies and protein is highly recommended anyway. I get really sleepy if I have high GI foods (not great with fibro on top ).

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I just have to ask this ... new
      #178852 - 05/13/05 02:47 PM
Sand

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Did you edit in the "can't eat rice" after I replied or am I, in fact, losing my mind - as I have long suspected?

You can take a look at this post by Heather where she mentions some non-rice alternatives to soy.

This may be a really stupid question, but does not being able to eat rice mean you also can't eat rice milk, rice cheeses, and so on?

HTH.

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Re: I just have to ask this ... new
      #179332 - 05/16/05 11:33 AM
De53

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It seems the poster is recently new to being hypoglycemic and when you're in early stages of diagnosis or "off the wagon" big time.. you have to adhere to a very very strict diet to get yourself back to where you should be and stay on that until you can maintain and then balance correctly.The bad thing about being hypo is it can flip into type 2 diabetes as I said on other post and then back again which makes it even more dangerous as it throws your whole metabolism and body off every time it flip flops.

We should NOT have white rice, pasta's or anything that metabolies quictly into sugars because the body's way of coping with it is to throw out MORE insulin which we are already resistant to... and it creates a cycle circle of all the bad things over and over. Hope that makes sense I'm sleep deprived today.

Once I get my glycemic level back insync I can eat most anything I want within reason. I LOVE REAL Italian and some good places in Chicago to go... but I would limit myself to a piece of two of fresh bread and a pasta dish with lots of protein to go with it (chicken breast etc) along with either big salad or lots of steamed veggies. It in essence becomes a balancing act you need a good with a bad and a larger portion of the good to offset the bad and still be beneficial to your glycemic level. And idealistically if you're going to have something on the 'bad" list then you should try to have 2 good, suggested is a protein along with a vegetable and/or low glycemic fruit.

I can literally feel my blood sugar dropping especially when I've really been off diet and its sinking fast I get an odd feeling and a sudden sharp headache and my mood will switch quickly to being very grumpy and irritable. After 25 years of marriage my husband knows how to read when my blood sugar in in the loo senario and will just say very simply and calmly... you're being a witch go eat some protein.. ok not so subtle but it gets my attention and I do it. Hits my stomach and simple digestion starts and gets some of it to my bloodsteam I start to feel better and within a short time I'm out of the low sugar funk and back to normal.

It can happen just waiting too long between snacks or meals without eating anything "bad"... it's usually all controlled with diet and once you get good at the balancing act its quite simple. But its the variables that make it rough most of the time, especially those that have a way of rapidly throwing your glucose level into that deep hole so fast you don't realize it until its too late. Getting back out is much harder than falling in trust me.. I've been balancing this for over 30 years. Stress is a real bad guy in all of this, which usually triggers the cravings for carbs and other comfort foods which through you deeper into that hole.

I'm not a big dairy person. I love different cheeses and yogart occassionaly but that is about it. I do not eat eggs in any shape or form, they gross me out both site, smell, texture and taste. I have allergies to milk itself but not cheese in moderation. I can use milk as an additive in receipes but cannot drink it, so my consumption of milk in any form is very limited. However, cheese is considered a good protein for hypoglycemics yet on a low carb/smart carb diet its to be very limited and to certain kinds - since their are "soft cheeses" such as Brie and then hard cheeses like Chedders etc. Depending which expert of the day you read one says only soft, one says only hard. I compromise and have a little of either one depending what's here.

I like brown rice which is on the OK occassionally list and mix that with Wild Rice which isn't a rice at all but I like the taste and the chewy texture.

Caffine and alcohol are definitely bad and I am my own worst enemy when it comes to a nice stiff drink at the end of the day to relax... some times I have no reaction at all other times I really upsets my guts. Caffine ?? I have always had 1 cup of coffee in the AM... curse of being Scandanivan.. Swedes love their strong black coffee in the morning. I seldom drink more than one, but when I do I feel it the rest of the day, its like battery acid in my guts.

I find what I've read on this site good sound advice and commonsense to combating the IBS problem.. but this situation of being thrown into having to deal with 2 conflicting situations is going to really be a challenge to work out and I can understand this posters frustration more than most. I tried talking to my GP and that was like spitting into the wind.. he got back on the "drug" kick again and I told him goodbye...

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Re: I just have to ask this ... new
      #179342 - 05/16/05 11:52 AM
Sand

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Makes sense. It sounds sort of like the IBS rules - good (SF) to balance, or in the case of IBS, cushion, the bad (IF). I can see where your problem is going to be that some of your bad (SF) is the IBS good, and vice versa. There are some commonalites, like eating small frequent meals. Also, assuming you're NOT allergic to soy, there are soy cheeses and yogurts. Too bad about eggs - egg whites are a nice, fast, portable form of protein.

My thinking in asking if rice being unsafe meant rice milk and rice cheese were also unsafe was that maybe processing rice into something else changed its glycemic index (if I'm using that phrase right). That is, there are supposedly things like rice protein powder, so I wondered if the milk and cheese perhaps just extracted the protein and so changed the glycemic index to something more bearable.

Can you tell I don't know what I'm talking about? Anyhow, thanks for the crash course. Good luck balancing your hypoglycemia balancing act with your IBS balancing act. (Sort of like the guy riding the bicycle on the high wire, while carrying a pole with whirling disks on each end!)

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