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is just a "guideline" for people with IBS. You have to remember that everyone is different, and the diet isn't a "fix". Some people who follow the diet to a "T" have outstanding results and others don't have any. You need to figure out what works with your body, and what doesn't. Just because one person has luck with one thing doesn't mean that you're going to have the same luck. Same thing with things that other people can't have, maybe they'll work for others.
The important keys to success with C are mainly insolubles following a soluble base & plenty of water & excercise. The same holds true with these though... they're "guidelines" not a guarantee that it'll work.
You have to figure out for yourself what works. I know you've heard that a million times, and it's very discouraging, but that's unfortunately what it takes, for most of us.
It IS trial and error. The Mirilax might be a huge help to you in this department. It might be able to at least keep you going while you figure out what works. Then again... it is addictive or "habit forming". It's your call.
I'm not Heather, so I can't tell you if she is or isn't offended by your comments, but I'm sure you're not the only one who's had difficulty and has expressed it.
Good luck Beth!
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If life hands you lemons, make lemonade!!
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Is the golden rule just to eat insoluble after soluble and the rest is trial and error?
Yep! That's it exactly, Beth. And that is the "point" of the diet.
The thing is, insoluble fiber foods are NOT categorically "unsafe". You NEED insolubles in your diet, and you actually need to be eating as many of them as you can stand to eat without making yourself sicker. You just can't eat insolubles ALONE. You eat soluble fiber first, and it makes the insolubles "safe".
Beyond that, everyone is different and it is trial and error. There is NO way to get around that.
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Yep, unfortunately, everyone Is different and can tolerate different things! In a very generalized way, this is what I have learned from other posters on this boards-People with IBS D need more soluble fiber and less insoluble fiber. Insoluble fiber is more likey to upset a D type person. People with C also need soluble fiber but must typically eat as much insoluble fiber as possible to keep things moving!
There is no exact rule that will work for everyone. The best thing to do is keep a food journal. That is how I discovered I can eat salads and strawberries is I only eat them every few days. I can eat raisin bran cereal (with rice "milk") just fine but than if I turn around and have a salad for lunch also, I'm in trouble! If I have a "safer" cereal like honeycomb for breakfast and I'm kinda stable, than a salad with bread would be just fine for lunch! It really does vary so much from person to person. It is really trial and error.
As for the orange question, I just peel and eat! Try having some white or sourdough toast for breakfast and than try the orange. 
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I do truly believe in the principles, so I really, really, really hope she is not offended by my questions about it. I'm sorry. I'm just trying to understand it all and trying to understand the inconsistencies.
I guess I was under the impression that if I followed everything to the "T" as you put it, everything would work. Like one treatment plan for all IBSers. That indeed it was a "fix" for IBS.
I'll keep plugging along with this and thank you all for your support and for not judging me or my questioning why this isn't working.
So, I guess I'm not banned from the boards?  Because I wouldn't make it without this wonderful website or all you guys!
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Constipation, pain prodominent,cramps, spasms and bloat!
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Oranges=bad
#135022 - 01/04/05 03:19 PM
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Oranges REALLY hurt my tummy so I avoid eating them at all. I sometimes sneak some orange juice after a very soluble heavy breakfast.
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It really is different for everyone. I think what the IBS diet is, is a bunch of things in common that IBS's tend to be able to eat/not eat. Everyone may have differences, but there does tend to be a pattern. People with IBS-C tend to be able to eat more insoluble, which is good cause we NEED it! The thing is, you want to be careful with it, since it can cause an attack. The trick is slowely working up the amount and seeing what your body can tolerate. Don't just get stuck eating the same foods without trying out others. You need to find your limits.
As far as oranges, I can eat them fine I've never tried eating them everyday so I have no idea how that would work out, I'm way too lazy to peal them  I eat bananas and I don't think they make me C, and my tummy tolerates them fine. Then again I'm not sure cause I haven't been able to disern which foods in general make me C.
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